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Air France / KLM Virtual Airlines Forums | AFVA Operations | ACARS & 747-400 F
AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
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50 State Club
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Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 07 2012 15:32 ET by Luca Di Biase
hallo,
i think that acars considers the weight of the pax carrier also if u fly the cargo, hence could happens a mismatch in the pireps .
Take a look here :
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/pdf/freighters/747f_perf.pdf


AFV292
Senior Captain, A380-800

Joined on March 02 2009
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
50 State Club
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Flying Colonel
Two Million Mile Club
Historical Five Hundred Club
Under African Skies

"Flying steadily onwards and upwards"
ZA

1,845 legs, 5,394.9 hours
1,833 legs, 5,371.5 hours ACARS
1,908 legs, 5,542.5 hours total
3 legs dispatched, 4.5 hours
 Posted onPost created on September 09 2012 14:57 ET by Mark Stead
You need to make sure you select 747-400ERF/ 747-400F and not 747-400 when flying the -400 freighter and if flying the -200 Freighter, to select the 200F- they are different in certain aspects to the passenger variants and are seperate aircraft in the ACARS system
AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Millenium Club
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 10 2012 20:55 ET by Luca Di Biase
i've cecked the right equipment, but there's the issue.


AFV292
Senior Captain, A380-800

Joined on March 02 2009
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
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Flying Colonel
Two Million Mile Club
Historical Five Hundred Club
Under African Skies

"Flying steadily onwards and upwards"
ZA

1,845 legs, 5,394.9 hours
1,833 legs, 5,371.5 hours ACARS
1,908 legs, 5,542.5 hours total
3 legs dispatched, 4.5 hours
 Posted onPost created on September 11 2012 15:17 ET by Mark Stead
Please make a helpdesk issue- we can then check this and get it corrected (if need be).
DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
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"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,307 legs, 9,292.6 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
1,965 legs, 8,085.7 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,343 legs, 9,427.5 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours
 Posted onPost created on September 11 2012 15:59 ET by Luke Kolin
What is the issue, are the maximum weights incorrect?

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11
AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Millenium Club
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 11 2012 17:06 ET by Luca Di Biase
Luke Kolin wrote:

What is the issue, are the maximum weights incorrect?

Cheers!


yes, they are incorrect. Ceck those links please:
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/pdf/freighters/747f_perf.pdf
http://afva.net/pirep.do?id=0xebc1


AFV397
Captain, A350-900

Joined on November 22 2010
International Tourist
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GVA 10 Year Anniversary
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Jurassic Jets Century Club
Million Mile Club

"Isaiah 40:31"
Cherthala, Kerala India

752 legs, 2,398.6 hours
728 legs, 2,299.0 hours online
748 legs, 2,386.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 14.1 hours event
 Posted onPost created on September 11 2012 18:30 ET by Cyriac Jose
Luca's right. The MLW of 630,000lbs which ACARS thinks is true for the 400F is actually correct for B747-400. For the B747-400F, its 652,000 lbs. As of right now, AF flies only the B747-400ERF which has a MLW of 666,000. And btw Luca, your flight is 23,000lbs over the MZFW.
AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Millenium Club
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 20 2012 11:14 ET by Luca Di Biase
so, what's the model to choose to fly the 747 pmdg freighter? 747F or 747ERF?



AFV005
Senior Captain, A330-200
OLP

Joined on March 22 2003
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Under African Skies

"You cannot negotiate with gravity"
Long Beach, CA

2,086 legs, 5,277.7 hours
1,880 legs, 4,385.6 hours online
1,571 legs, 3,472.9 hours ACARS
27 legs, 72.5 hours event
2,350 legs, 6,067.2 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 20 2012 13:59 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil
I am using PMDG 747-F and never had any issues on the w&b calculations


AFV651
Captain, B707-320
OLP

Joined on August 04 2011
Historic Two Fifty Club
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Millenium Club
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
Online Triple Century Club

"Concorde: anything else is just SLOW"
Milan, Lombardy Italy

1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours
304 legs, 494.6 hours online
1,087 legs, 2,148.6 hours ACARS
10 legs, 15.4 hours event
1,410 legs, 2,961.0 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 20 2012 19:43 ET by Luca Di Biase
so what's the pmdg model that works as ERF?


AFV005
Senior Captain, A330-200
OLP

Joined on March 22 2003
GVA 10 Year Anniversary
Diplomatic Mission
Globetrotter Extraordinaire
50 State Club
Online Millenium Club
Two Million Mile Club
Historical Five Hundred Club
Double Millenium Club
Under African Skies

"You cannot negotiate with gravity"
Long Beach, CA

2,086 legs, 5,277.7 hours
1,880 legs, 4,385.6 hours online
1,571 legs, 3,472.9 hours ACARS
27 legs, 72.5 hours event
2,350 legs, 6,067.2 hours total
 Posted onPost created on September 20 2012 22:54 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil
I am using 747-400 F version from them, I am not sure it will match with ERF



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