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Posted onPost created on August 17 2013 07:51 ET by Matthias Paul

Hello, i´m searching the AF schedules for AF 38/37 CDG-AUH-CDG, but can´t find them - or did i make some mistakes ? Is it possible to add these flights to the AF database, because i want to do this two flights. The scheduled flight times are:

AF 38 CDG 22:05 - AUH 07:00 and
AF 37 AUH 09:00 - CDG 14:25

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Posted onPost created on August 17 2013 18:09 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

CDG AUH leg has been serviced by codeshare partner EY032 / 346. AF Website does not show any flight under AF38 or 37. AF also services to AUH under AF3800 / 3802 flight numbers

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Posted onPost created on August 17 2013 19:23 ET by Marc Duval

ICAO code for Air France is AFR and not AF as it is referenced here all the time. AF is the IATA code. Therefore, if you search for AF38 it should yield no results. AFR38 on another hand is a flight from LFPG to KIAH: http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR38

AFR37 is from KATL to LFPG: http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR37

Air France Flights to Abu Dhabi are fairly recent (05/01/2010) and are: http://www.airfrance.fr/FR/fr/local/resainfovol/meilleuresoffres/promo_abu_dhabi.htm

• Vol AF 3848 : http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR3848
Départ Paris-Charles de Gaulle, terminal 2E à 13 h 45 ;
Arrivée Abou Dhabi à 22 h 25, heure locale.
Tous les jours, sauf les mercredis et vendredis

• Vol AF 3849 : http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR3849
Départ Abou Dhabi à 00 h 30 ;
Arrivée Paris-Charles de Gaulle, terminal 2E à 05 h 45, heure locale.
Tous les jours, sauf les jeudis et samedis.

As mentioned above, AFR3800 is also a valid number: http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR3800
AFR3802 does not go to OMAA: http://fr.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR3802

Posted onPost created on August 18 2013 05:00 ET by Matthias Paul

Hmmmm, i check the flights at flightstats.com and there i found AF38/39 (not as a codeshare), but it seems you guys are right, because everywhere else i can´t find this flight. So this is a mistake by flightstats.

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Posted onPost created on August 18 2013 16:15 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

I would always check AF Website for official flight info; would not trust flightaware that much

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Posted onPost created on August 18 2013 17:13 ET by Marc Duval

Kerem Yogurtcugil wrote:

I would always check AF Website for official flight info; would not trust flightaware that much

This is what I did first.

Posted onPost created on August 18 2013 17:56 ET by Matthias Paul

Now i know the point. It´s flight EY38, but it´s an AF aircraft. I checked it right now at Flightradar24.com and there you can see it´s F-GLZH. It´s an Etihad flight number but an AF aircraft.

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Posted onPost created on August 18 2013 18:32 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

that's the AF3802 flight

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Posted onPost created on August 19 2013 07:07 ET by Matthias Paul

I´m a little bit confused

Even the AF 3802 flight i can´t find in the AF schedules. If i look for a flight CDG-AUH in AF schedules i get no results.

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Posted onPost created on August 19 2013 18:43 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/US/en/local/resainfovol/infovols/detailsVol.do

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Posted onPost created on August 20 2013 04:16 ET by Matthias Paul

Matthias Paul wrote:

I´m a little bit confused
Even the AF 3802 flight i can´t find in the AF schedules. If i look for a flight CDG-AUH in AF schedules i get no results.

Sorry, my fault. I didn´t spoke about the real world AF schedules, i spoke about the AFVA schedules. Because in the AFVA schedules i can´t find this flight.

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Posted onPost created on August 20 2013 12:40 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

AFVA schedules are updated from rw schedule so it may or may not be there based on which update we have received. Since there is a codeshare for this leg, it would not surprise me if we do not see this particular flight under AF

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Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 05:03 ET by Marc Duval

Kerem Yogurtcugil wrote:

AFVA schedules are updated from rw schedule so it may or may not be there based on which update we have received. Since there is a codeshare for this leg, it would not surprise me if we do not see this particular flight under AF

I was booted 3 times by UK controllers for an Academy check ride that makes no sense. AF is still used and not valid. It is AFR. You will be told by french controllers when when you as for you clearance to change it. I think that it is time for a new update.

Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 16:29 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

our call sign is AFRXXXX (notam # 16), AF should not been used on vatsim or ivao

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Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 16:44 ET by Brian Hankey

I just looked in our schedules using Find a Flight and we have an Emirates flight in there... EY032 flown by an A340.

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Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 19:51 ET by Marc Duval

Kerem Yogurtcugil wrote:

our call sign is AFRXXXX (notam # 16), AF should not been used on vatsim or ivao

Here is the checkride that I cannot complete and all the flifht in the schedule have AF instead of AFR

*** Air France Virtual Airlines Flight Academy Only ***

1. London Heathrow (EGLL) to Paris Charles De Gaulle (LFPG) as AF9900 Leg 1
Route is MAY2K SFD WAFFU XIDIL DPE4E at either FL170 or FL330

2. Frankfurt (EDDF) to Zurich (LSZH) as AF9901 Leg 1
Route is ANEK9E BADU PABLA HERBI RILATA NATOR at either FL170 or FL330

3. Lisbon (LPPT) to Madrid (LEMD) as AF9902 Leg 1
Route is IDBID2N RAKOD TLD TLDC1 at either FL170 or FL290

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Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 19:52 ET by Marc Duval

Marc Duval wrote:

Kerem Yogurtcugil wrote:

our call sign is AFRXXXX (notam # 16), AF should not been used on vatsim or ivao

Here is the checkride that I cannot complete and all the flights in the schedule have AF instead of AFR

*** Air France Virtual Airlines Flight Academy Only ***

1. London Heathrow (EGLL) to Paris Charles De Gaulle (LFPG) as AF9900 Leg 1
Route is MAY2K SFD WAFFU XIDIL DPE4E at either FL170 or FL330

2. Frankfurt (EDDF) to Zurich (LSZH) as AF9901 Leg 1
Route is ANEK9E BADU PABLA HERBI RILATA NATOR at either FL170 or FL330

3. Lisbon (LPPT) to Madrid (LEMD) as AF9902 Leg 1
Route is IDBID2N RAKOD TLD TLDC1 at either FL170 or FL290

Posted onPost created on August 22 2013 20:14 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

is this now a flight academy question?

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2013 07:27 ET by Matthias Paul

Brian Hankey wrote:

I just looked in our schedules using Find a Flight and we have an Emirates flight in there... EY032 flown by an A340.

Sorry, but EY is Etihad, not Emirates wink

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Posted onPost created on August 23 2013 09:22 ET by Marc Duval

Kerem Yogurtcugil wrote:

is this now a flight academy question?

No, it is a question of updating the call signs because they do not conform to the rules.

Posted onPost created on August 23 2013 11:59 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil

call sign is AFR, AF is the designator for Air France in real life such as DL for Delta, AA for American Airlines.

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Posted onPost created on September 01 2013 17:09 ET by Brian Hankey

Matthias Paul wrote:

Brian Hankey wrote:

I just looked in our schedules using Find a Flight and we have an Emirates flight in there... EY032 flown by an A340.

Sorry, but EY is Etihad, not Emirates

Sorry had Emirates on my brain at the time.

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