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Paul Hale wrote:

All,

Following on from a meeting last night, it was felt that there may be need at AFVA/KLM for a stage 3 Boeing program.

Currently you can fly stage 2 to stage 5 in the Airbus without having to fly Boeing aircraft to progress through the ranks (A320,A330,A340,A380)

With Boeing, we only have stage 2 and 4 (B737 stage 2 and B777 and B747 in stage 4) so to progress into the 747 and 777 you must use a stage 3 Airbus program or one of the historicals.

The plan would be that we bring in a new 767 program at stage 3 for Boeing so that there is a clear Boeing career progression. We can justify this as both Air France and KLM used to fly 767's and we currently have a codeshare partner still operating them.

This would be a program stop gap for 2 years roughly and then the program will close in 2016 and a new stage 3, 787 program will take its place when they become operational real world with KLM.

As pilots your opinions really count so please vote either way on if you would like to see this change implemented.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul Hale wrote:

All,

Following on from a meeting last night, it was felt that there may be need at AFVA/KLM for a stage 3 Boeing program.

Currently you can fly stage 2 to stage 5 in the Airbus without having to fly Boeing aircraft to progress through the ranks (A320,A330,A340,A380)

With Boeing, we only have stage 2 and 4 (B737 stage 2 and B777 and B747 in stage 4) so to progress into the 747 and 777 you must use a stage 3 Airbus program or one of the historicals.

The plan would be that we bring in a new 767 program at stage 3 for Boeing so that there is a clear Boeing career progression. We can justify this as both Air France and KLM used to fly 767's and we currently have a codeshare partner still operating them.

This would be a program stop gap for 2 years roughly and then the program will close in 2016 and a new stage 3, 787 program will take its place when they become operational real world with KLM.

As pilots your opinions really count so please vote either way on if you would like to see this change implemented.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul Hale wrote:

All,

Following on from a meeting last night, it was felt that there may be need at AFVA/KLM for a stage 3 Boeing program.

Currently you can fly stage 2 to stage 5 in the Airbus without having to fly Boeing aircraft to progress through the ranks (A320,A330,A340,A380)

With Boeing, we only have stage 2 and 4 (B737 stage 2 and B777 and B747 in stage 4) so to progress into the 747 and 777 you must use a stage 3 Airbus program or one of the historicals.

The plan would be that we bring in a new 767 program at stage 3 for Boeing so that there is a clear Boeing career progression. We can justify this as both Air France and KLM used to fly 767's and we currently have a codeshare partner still operating them.

This would be a program stop gap for 2 years roughly and then the program will close in 2016 and a new stage 3, 787 program will take its place when they become operational real world with KLM.

As pilots your opinions really count so please vote either way on if you would like to see this change implemented.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul Hale wrote:

All,

Following on from a meeting last night, it was felt that there may be need at AFVA/KLM for a stage 3 Boeing program.

Currently you can fly stage 2 to stage 5 in the Airbus without having to fly Boeing aircraft to progress through the ranks (A320,A330,A340,A380)

With Boeing, we only have stage 2 and 4 (B737 stage 2 and B777 and B747 in stage 4) so to progress into the 747 and 777 you must use a stage 3 Airbus program or one of the historicals.

The plan would be that we bring in a new 767 program at stage 3 for Boeing so that there is a clear Boeing career progression. We can justify this as both Air France and KLM used to fly 767's and we currently have a codeshare partner still operating them.

This would be a program stop gap for 2 years roughly and then the program will close in 2016 and a new stage 3, 787 program will take its place when they become operational real world with KLM.

As pilots your opinions really count so please vote either way on if you would like to see this change implemented.

Thanks,

Paul

Paul Hale wrote:

All,

Following on from a meeting last night, it was felt that there may be need at AFVA/KLM for a stage 3 Boeing program.

Currently you can fly stage 2 to stage 5 in the Airbus without having to fly Boeing aircraft to progress through the ranks (A320,A330,A340,A380)

With Boeing, we only have stage 2 and 4 (B737 stage 2 and B777 and B747 in stage 4) so to progress into the 747 and 777 you must use a stage 3 Airbus program or one of the historicals.

The plan would be that we bring in a new 767 program at stage 3 for Boeing so that there is a clear Boeing career progression. We can justify this as both Air France and KLM used to fly 767's and we currently have a codeshare partner still operating them.

This would be a program stop gap for 2 years roughly and then the program will close in 2016 and a new stage 3, 787 program will take its place when they become operational real world with KLM.

As pilots your opinions really count so please vote either way on if you would like to see this change implemented.

Thanks,

Paul